>> i think mr. bersani will keep going on the route that monti vaeted. this is what we need for a strong europe. i do not think that berlusconi is a man we need to worry about. he is a man that is almost 80 years old and i don't really think that he has a significant appeal on the italian population. italians are smarter than that. they know that now the crisis is very deep and we need to pursue a different pathway than the one of dreams and fantasies that mr. berlusconi is usually telling people. they know these are just lies. >> coming back to bersani, you say that he will stick with the austerity drive. i'm wondering because marto monti's popularity has suffered over the last couple of weeks because the italian population is feeling the pain of austerity. will he have to backtrack somewhat on how harsh these austerity measures are going to be? >> the decreasing popularity of mr. monti is probably related to the fact that just in the last few weeks, people in italy had to pay for the first time a new tax on their home. obviously, particularly on the so